tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33488833.post877492185352263426..comments2023-11-02T02:14:31.901-06:00Comments on ReadMoreWriteMoreThinkMoreBeMore: No, you CAN'T just watch the movie!Doctor Jhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13189506916480012553noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33488833.post-11232942758130341412007-09-10T17:20:00.001-05:002007-09-10T17:20:00.001-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Petya K. Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889767000588371501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33488833.post-15879048935845401142007-09-10T17:20:00.000-05:002007-09-10T17:20:00.000-05:00speaking of movies...could you show episodes of we...speaking of movies...could you show episodes of weeds in your class? teach them about friendship...?Petya K. Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889767000588371501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33488833.post-36434577270027924902007-09-04T21:06:00.000-05:002007-09-04T21:06:00.000-05:00chet,response to post #1: I completely agree with ...chet,<BR/><BR/>response to post #1: I completely agree with you about Clockwork Orange and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, but I didn't like either the book or film of The Sweet Hereafter<BR/><BR/>#2: I have many similar "memories." And I will definitely check out the Sturken book.<BR/><BR/>#3: I'm going to take your suggestion about pointing out the differences between the Iliad and "Troy." (Of course, I have to watch "Troy" first!) Someone else told me that another difference between the two is that Achilles is older than Patroclus in the film, which of course he isn't in the Iliad. Mnay of my students have already mentioned the absence of the gods in "Troy," so that may be the best place to start.Doctor Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13189506916480012553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33488833.post-19314522906110024622007-09-04T12:36:00.000-05:002007-09-04T12:36:00.000-05:00sorry to deluge you, but it also occurred to me th...sorry to deluge you, but it also occurred to me that you might find a practical way into the distinction between the film and the text by asking the students why the filmmaker chose certain elements to film and others to elide: for example, all we really know from the film is that briseis is a hot babe that achilles want to sack, and is also consequently related to priam. but clearly she has an important religious importance as well. or, why the different gods were left out of troy altogether. or, why patroclus was a cousin and not a lover, or why a cousin (if not a lover) and not a friend or something else? the latter choice perhaps signifying that homoeroticism can only be thought according to familial love? whoa.Not Chethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273786971120329655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33488833.post-42518961648202927802007-09-04T09:26:00.000-05:002007-09-04T09:26:00.000-05:00I think i said something about this in one of my p...I think i said something about this in one of my posts, but there's this book my Marita Sturken called Tangled Memories. talks about the interweaving of images with personal memories. the images become our memories. for example, i have a picture of myself at my first birthday (i was a cute lad) and i cannot decided whether i have a memory of this or if it was formed on the basis of the image. <BR/><BR/>it makes one wonder if prior to photography these problems with memory obtained. clearly a memory can't be limited to what we saw at the moment. a book is supposedly capable of bringing those other things forth. sometimes, it doesn't even deal in images.Not Chethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273786971120329655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33488833.post-43716951256034975672007-09-04T09:22:00.000-05:002007-09-04T09:22:00.000-05:00there are of course versions where the film exceed...there are of course versions where the film exceeds the text: a clockwork orange (anthony burgess), arguably one flew over the kookoo's nest (ken kesey), and my personal favorite, the sweet hereafter (russell banks) ....<BR/><BR/>the thing with troy is that it is disappointing what could have been done with it. imagine the cgi interaction between gods and mortals! and the whole thing with patroclus is a bummer.Not Chethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273786971120329655noreply@blogger.com